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  1. #1 That's not Adoption, That's Kidnapping 
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    DUmmie and Democrat propaganda. Check out the date. Obama was the kidnapper.

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    That's not Adoption, That's Kidnapping

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    That’s not adoption that’s kidnapping. https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1049815039526535168 …
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    Migrant children quietly being adopted after their parents are deported: report http://hill.cm/uQlpkcB


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    As the deportees were led off the plane onto the steamy San Salvador tarmac, an anguished Araceli Ramos Bonilla burst into tears, her face contorted with pain: “They want to steal my daughter!”

    It had been 10 weeks since Ramos had last held her 2-year-old, Alexa. Ten weeks since she was arrested crossing the border into Texas and U.S. immigration authorities seized her daughter and told her she would never see the girl again.

    What followed — one foster family’s initially successful attempt to win full custody of Alexa — reveals what could happen to some of the infants, children and teens taken from their families at the border under a Trump administration policy earlier this year. The “zero-tolerance” crackdown ended in June, but hundreds of children remain in detention, shelters or foster care and U.S. officials say more than 200 are not eligible for reunification or release.

    Federal officials insist they are reuniting families and will continue to do so. But an Associated Press investigation drawing on hundreds of court documents, immigration records and interviews in the U.S. and Central America identified holes in the system that allow state court judges to grant custody of migrant children to American families — without notifying their parents.
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    Arkansas Granny (24,966 posts) 2. Yes, that's kidnapping.
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    4. And sex trafficking

    In June leaving Arizona by plane I saw something that still bothers me to this day. A woman had these children that were not hers (she was Asian) getting on the plane. I noticed 2 sets of girl twins and commented on it. The lady said one set were triplets and the boy was coming from LA. we were flying into Sfo The children wore brand new clothes and were holding dolls and they looked like they were distressed. They had seats in first class. I looked for them in the baggage claim center but never saw them again. But that look in their eyes really bothered me.
    lunasun (17,452 posts)

    27. That first wave after child depression at the border seemed very chaotic who was

    assisting them too many hands they were passing through and distributed across the country
    But from the start I suspected it was to lose children for various purposes and perhaps planned opportunity , an additional perk of the new trump laws
    How many have still not been located from that first wave ? How many since?
    Perfect victim parents -Poseibly limited money ,sent back to a stressful or dangerous location they came from and no longer in this country , likely limited English, maybe no contacts in the US .
    What you saw >Sometimes your gut or senses say that ain’t right what’s wrong with this picture ?
    And yet the Democrats are all for open borders and the people, drug and sex trafficking it allows and encourages.

    llashram (43 posts)

    7. an immigration policy

    that was the creation of Stephen Miller. One of the shadow presidents advising the child sitting in the chair in the Oval Office.
    Igel (28,987 posts)

    19. People aren't actually reading past the headline.

    The article's from October 2018.

    The mother and daughter were separated in November 2015. Call them Araceli and Alexa, their first names. Araceli was sent back to El Salvador fairly quickly. The child was then labelled (to my thinking, incorrectly) an unaccompanied minor.

    In 2016 custody of Alexa was awarded to an American family.

    In December 2016 the situation was investigated, custody revoked, and the child ordered deported.

    In January 2017 Trump was inaugurated.

    In February 2017 Alexa was deported.

    There's much not to like about how things were done in 2017 and 2018, but this isn't one of them. The only thing it does is say, "You know, under President Obama families were separated and, apparently his appointees engaged in kidnapping for the purposes of selling immigrant children into the sex trade." Now, I'm sure that people here don't *mean* to be saying that, but appending this particular style of commentary and claim to this particular example entails precisely that.

    Because people aren't actually reading past the headline. It's not like it's War and Peace, in the original Russian and French and in old orthography. It's word count, Word tells me, is 3,723 exclusive of headline and credits.

    Now, there are cases where this kind of thing could happen and I'd say, "Sure. Could be worse." There are still true unaccompanied minors, and minors who plausibly have no legit guardian with them as they cross. They should be declared unaccompanied. If they're young enough to give sufficient information to fairly quickly ID their parents, send them home. But often they won't, and in the past (by which I mean 2014 and 2015) the parents often sent them north to be with relatives who weren't their parents, friends who weren't their relatives, because "it's better there." Still, send them home if you can ID their parents. But some would not or could not give adequate information. Those you put in foster care and then adopt out. It's their choice as runaways (with nothing to be done about the perils of aiding and abetting runaways); and in the case of some kids, they just didn't can't give enough information.
    But of course jack*ss Dem propagandists always have a comeback to shield their jack*sses and blame President Trump.

    llashram (43 posts)

    29. I do understand

    the context, yet when trump was elected and Miller got his chance this type of situation exploded in children never being reunited with their families again. Many children deemed "unaccompanied" were actually snatched from their parents thrown into those cages-holding facilities-and a many many of the younger children were never sent back to their native countries and parents, just put into foster homes to await adoption. One reason for this happening was the Customs and Border Patrol paperwork was shoddy or altogether missing. While people may not read past the headlines, noted, I also have a long memory because I don't depend on the news cycle(s) of MSM for all my information.

    People have been coming over the border for generations now and President Obama had to deal with this particular situation also, no doubts on my part. The one thing I can bet on is that immigrants under his administration were treated with compassion and children were not thrown into cages like animals. Unlike those thousands who have been caged in just the last 3 years. With a little research, it is easily found out who the author of this current administration immigration policy concerning brown people(s) on our southwest border has been. That is Stephen Miller, one of this current administrations shadow presidents.
    Jack*ss accusations, no facts.
    Liberals are divorced from reality and they think it's great. When you live in la la land you're never wrong, it's always the other person/groups fault and you can believe what you want to believe and call it 'truth'.
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    The mother and daughter were separated in November 2015.

    Araceli was sent back to El Salvador fairly quickly.

    The child was then labelled (to my thinking, incorrectly) an unaccompanied minor.

    In 2016 custody of Alexa was awarded to an American family.

    In December 2016 the situation was investigated, custody revoked, and the child ordered deported.

    In January 2017 Trump was inaugurated.

    In February 2017 Alexa was deported.

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    Dont come here illegally and you wont risk being separated from your children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dlr Pyro View Post
    Dont come here illegally and you wont risk being separated from your children.

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    Obama, the kingpin of a child kidnapping ring. Who'd have thunk it.
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    This might be a situation with conflicting state and federal laws regarding adoptions of non-citizen children (who are usually granted citizenship through the adoption process). The state involved might have considered the child to be available for adoption, and the federal government might not have considered the child to be an unaccompanied minor.

    I don't work on the adoption end of things, but I work with them sometimes. It is a very complicated legal process, ask Jersey. If one step is messed up, sometimes you have to start all over again. And this is when everyone involved is a legal citizen.
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