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  1. #1 How can Democrats get the public more enthused about impeaching trump 
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    Poiuyt (13,937 posts)

    How can Democrats get the public more enthused about impeaching trump

    The general public seems to be evenly divided between supporting impeachment and removal from office with slightly more in favor of removing him. To me, this should be a slam dunk with 70% in favor (accounting for his 30% fascist cult following).


    The facts of the case are no longer in dispute — there's no question that trump was orchestrating a scheme to have Ukraine investigate the Bidens, thus smearing him and removing one of his biggest political rivals.

    There's no question that what he did falls under federal bribery statutes.

    The statute also offers a reasonable working definition of what it means for a public official to demand a bribe: “Whoever ... being a public official … directly or indirectly, corruptly demands, seeks, receives, accepts, or agrees to receive or accept anything of value personally ... in return for ... being influenced in the performance of any official act” also has committed the offense. (https://www.lawfareblog.com/gordon-s...sident-bribery).
    Bribery is one of only two offenses spelled out in the Constitution as grounds for impeachment. This is as cut and dried as a case can be.

    We've always known that republicans have pledged loyalty to trump and will do whatever is necessary to defend him — even if it means spitting on the Constitution. But that loyalty would vanish if the republican senators knew their constituents were in favor of impeachment. How can we sway those constituents?

    Now that Adam Schiff has established that trump was forcing Ukraine to investigate the Bidens in exchange for release of military aid, I'd like to have him engage in a campaign to educate the public about what the Founding Fathers meant by an impeachable crime, why what trump did fits the description of those crimes, and why it's important for America's future to remove him from office. I'd love to see Jon Meacham or Ron Chernow speak at the hearings. That would surely excite people about what's going on. Everyone behaves in their own best interest. Now we must demonstrate to America why it's in everyone's best interest to remove trump.

    The case for impeachment has been made. Now it's time to sell it to the American public.
    "Sell it to the American people"

    That's all they have. Sell their hate, lies and corruption to the American People.

    Leftists who are butt hurt that their leftist agenda isn't being enacted. Jack*sses are trying to sell the idea that if the leftist butt hurt jack*sses who want President Trump impeached THOUGHT or SURMISED that there was a quid pro quo....or their words "bribe" then it was so, despite there is NOTHING to indicate that.

    So they declare that Trump was 'bribing" Ukraine on the say so of jack*sses who interpreted what was said through the lens of their own hatred and determination to find SOMETHING, ANYTHING to use to impeach President Trump,

    Meanwhile they ignore or deny that there was anything wrong with BIDEN and OBAMA telling the Ukranians to FIRE THE INVESTIGATOR that was investigating Burisma - Biden's kid's money making, grifting golden egg - within 6 hours or they wouldn't get the 1 million loan guarantee that they had been promised.

    Biden is just as corrupt as Hillary..................it's not surprising he's in the lead. The Jack*ss Party sees that as a plus. If he does that when he's not the president the sky's the limit if he is the president. Both he and the Barry boy need to pay the price for their jack*ss corruption.


    Grasswire2 (5,387 posts)

    1. the polls are moving in the right direction

    Look at the data on this summary.

    Thirty out of thirty-eight polls have moved up in favoring impeachment AND removal.

    Many of them are double digit moves.

    Go to this link and go down to the full list of polls.

    [link:https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...957.html#polls|
    Right. And Hillary was going to win in a landslide.

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    2. The US Constitution doesn't seem to limit the number of impeachments a...


    President can face.

    Of course, removal or resignation can only happen once.

    Since the Senate doesn't seem inclined to remove the Liposuction Clinic Dumpster Fire at this time and seems inclined to do little aside from stacking the Federal Courts with unqualified right-wing partisan ideologues.

    It would seem the thing to do is queue up another impeachment to follow on the heels of this and another after that, as many as it takes on as many charges as can be found (there are plenty) for either the Senate to act or Trump is out of office by other means. (He will never resign. )

    Give Trump what he wants... Something no other President has ever had, multiple Impeachments.
    And every time they do it they show themselves up as lying jack*sses who will say and do anything to get what they believe they are 'entitled' to. Every time they do they show themselves up as the fascist PIGS that they are.
    Liberals are divorced from reality and they think it's great. When you live in la la land you're never wrong, it's always the other person/groups fault and you can believe what you want to believe and call it 'truth'.
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    Maybe, just maybe, if you idiots hadn’t cried wolf the other thousands of times and come up with nothing, you’d have the attention of more people. But you’ve been caught lying one too many times and the American people are basically yawning now at your attempts to overturn the election.
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    I guess lying their collective butt off isn't working.
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    It's butt pucker time, that fbi clown just charged is going to sing like a canary and names are going to be dropping all over the news. msm won't have any choice but to start talking about it even if they try to scrub it or push it aside they will have to talk about it or go bankrupt. It's beginning to look a lot like Christmas. He didn't do what he did on his own, he is part of a group of people who are a part of individuals in the highest bowels of government. Epstein may have visitors for Christmas
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    One DUmmy predicted impeachment would be so popular that Americans would be tuning-in in bars, pubs, and taverns... glued-to the coverage. And presumably, reruns of the coverage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cadillac shark View Post
    One DUmmy predicted impeachment would be so popular that Americans would be tuning-in in bars, pubs, and taverns... glued-to the coverage. And presumably, reruns of the coverage.
    In reality, virtually no one is watching or cares beyond the beltway and complete political sadists.
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    These morons still think Trump is afraid
    of Biden???
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    Stop your kangaroo court and build a platform which will attract voters, then put a candidate on that platform who can continue to attract voters to said platform, then win the 2020 election.

    Oh wait, that would be too much work. As well as impossible based on the platform the party is running on so far and the cannon fodder they have up for nomination.

    The facts of the case are no longer in dispute — there's no question that trump was orchestrating a scheme to have Ukraine investigate the Bidens, thus smearing him and removing one of his biggest political rivals.

    There's no question that what he did falls under federal bribery statutes.
    What facts are those, putzboy? Or is they like the confirmed science of man-made climate change?
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    Quote Originally Posted by enslaved1 View Post
    Stop your kangaroo court and build a platform which will attract voters, then put a candidate on that platform who can continue to attract voters to said platform, then win the 2020 election.

    Oh wait, that would be too much work. As well as impossible based on the platform the party is running on so far and the cannon fodder they have up for nomination.



    What facts are those, putzboy? Or is they like the confirmed science of man-made climate change?
    Their platform now is built on what Moonbats, SJWs and other assorted Left-Wing assholes want ( Massive tax increases, massive regulation, massive censorship, free health care for everyone on the planet, wide open borders and draconian gun laws ). And the American people want none of it ; but they're too stupid to understand that.
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    I think they could start by actually finding a crime he committed.
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