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    House Democrat starts what should be groundswell, demands McConnell recuse himself from impeachment

    House Democrat starts what should be groundswell, demands McConnell recuse himself from impeachment
    Joan McCarter
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    Friday December 13, 2019 · 2:56 PM EST

    House Judiciary Committee member Rep. Val Demings, a Florida Democrat, is demanding that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell recuse himself from the Senate's impeachment trial.

    She accused McConnell of promising the White House to "sabotage" the trial. "No court in the country would allow a member of the jury to also serve as the accused’s defense attorney. The moment Senator McConnell takes the oath of impartiality required by the Constitution, he will be in violation of that oath," she said in a statement. That's in response to McConnell's admission on Sean Hannity's Fox News show Thursday night that he would act on Trump's behalf. "Everything I do during this, I'm coordinating with White House counsel," he said. "There will be no difference between the president's position and our position as to how to handle this."

    He would be in violation of his oath, as Demings pointed out, referencing Article 1, Section 3 of the Constitution which delineates "The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation." That oath, or affirmation, every senator will take says "that in all things appertaining to the trial of the impeachment of [President Trump], now pending, I will do impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws: So help me God."

    Demings should not stand alone. Every Democrat—including Speaker Nancy Pelosi and her leadership team and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and his team—should join her. And they should publicly shame any Republican senator still capable of feeling that emotion who is allowing McConnell to get away with this.

    Sign the petition: Mitch McConnell must recuse himself from Trump impeachment trial.


    So. All the Democrat Congress crititers who are campaigning for the presidency are going to recuse themselves because they have a conflict of interest, right? If they vote yes they are doing so because it will help them.

    And all the Democrats in congress who have spoken out and demanded that President Trump be impeached are going to recuse themselves because they have obviously prejudged the evidence, right?

    Hekate (58,077 posts)

    2. I like Val Demings. She's my kind of "law and order" Congresscritter!

    She's an idiot, or just throwing out red meat to the slavish jack*sses.

    maxsolomon (20,489 posts)

    4. She is correct; he won't recuse himself.

    This is what he acquired Power for. He's going to submarine the trial, and the Bidens will get dragged as surely as if Ukraine had faked a corrupt investigation.

    Roberts will look like a statue - nothing to do but sit still.
    He has no reason to recuse himself. Either Democrats can make the case that he committed high crimes and misdemeanors or they can't. Since they haven't it's obvious they can't. The framers DID NOT want impeachment to be used in the case of hating or disagreeing with the President. That's what this is.

    Leith (5,376 posts)

    9. Absolutely right!

    Moscow Mitch is now waving his filthy corruption in our faces like dirty underwear.

    He. Must. Recuse.
    What corruption? And maybe the DUmmies need to be reminded that they claimed the minority had NO SAY in the impeachment investigation. What makes them think that with that attitude the minority - Democrats - should have anything to say about the rules and procedures of the trial in the Senate?

    Now, extrapolate from there (I know it's hard), how do you think the next Democrat President is going to be treated based on how the Democrat politicians and base treated President Trump and Republicans? That's only 'fair'? Right?

    keithbvadu2 (11,854 posts)

    10. Along with Lindsey who said he would not look at all the evidence.

    Along with Lindsey who said he would not look at all the evidence.

    And others who already said 'no guilty verdict' - jury nullification.
    He's seen all the evidence during the impeachment inquiry.

    RANDYWILDMAN (110 posts)

    11. Does McConnell even understand what co-equal branches means??

    What a toadie.

    Let's just announce it now, Trump is innocent....What a joke the Senate has become

    The Senate, is now a joke. Tyranny of the minority.
    Now that's a laugh. Co equal branches does not mean you railroad a President when the facts don't show he's guilty.

    ancianita (12,331 posts)

    20. Go, Val Deming from FLORIDA! Give 'em the Jordan treatment, Val! One difference: you have the ad-

    vantage of being Right. On.

    Then there's the pesky voice of reason..............

    AncientGeezer (1,682 posts)

    27. Turtle will just use the argument....

    along the lines..17 of the D members on Judiciary had voted for impeachment prior to any impeachment hearing. They didn't recuse today.

    Should they have ALL recused today because they had voted Aye before...that would have left 6 who could vote.
    The Senate sets their rules on how to run the trial as the House does for impeachment.. per the Constitution..there will be no recusals.
    Maraya1969 (14,946 posts)

    37. But they were like the prosecutors.

    A prosecutor brings up evidence of the crime so they were just acting like prosecutors. Moscow Mitch is supposed to look at all the evidence and make a decision.

    He specifically said he won't do it.
    AncientGeezer (1,682 posts)

    49. "Moscow Mitch is supposed to look at all the evidence.."

    Except for that pesky part of the Constitution that says...
    "The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two-thirds of the Members present."....
    They make their own rules on how to run it.
    On day 1 of the trial they could move to acquit with 51 votes.

    It's political process not a legal one in the House and Senate. There is always bias. (I watched Both the Nixon hearings and Clinton impeachment and trial..I saw bias)
    17 Democratic members of Judiciary had voted for impeachment at least once on the floor of the House before any Articles ever had been considered in the Judiciary cmt..and Chairman Nadler made the decision that those votes of support to impeach MONTHS before..weren't grounds to recuse.

    There can be a million signatures on the petition(as of now there just under 3600), there won't be recusals.
    Shoonra (355 posts)
    39. Sorry, there's no recusal from the Impeachment trial....

    In the impeachment trial of Pres. Andrew Johnson there were points of order raised about the presence and participation by certain Senators with a personal stake in the outcome - and it was held that they could continue to participate and vote in the proceedings. Namely, the President-Pro-Tem of the Senate, who would become the new US President if Johnson were convicted, and Johnson's own son-in-law.

    So there are no regulations requiring McConnell (or any other Senator) to recuse himself.

    The DUmmies are not happy.
    Liberals are divorced from reality and they think it's great. When you live in la la land you're never wrong, it's always the other person/groups fault and you can believe what you want to believe and call it 'truth'.
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    . Absolutely right!

    Moscow Mitch is now waving his filthy corruption in our faces like dirty underwear.

    He. Must. Recuse
    He. Doesn't. Have.To.

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    I hope he tells them to go to hell. They wanted this so let them have everything that comes with it.
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    Unlike a jury in a criminal trial, every Senator has seen the "evidence". So this is meaningless blather. I'm sure McConnell give it every bit of the respect it deserves.
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